Everyone had (and is having!) so much fun with the Avatar Game thread yesterday I’ve decided to try and make at least one marginally-interesting thread topic EVERY DAY. I might move commenting to paid-only.
I will probably still do a Thing today but now that the weather isn’t horrible I have two days of chores to catch up on.
So, let’s hear your best speculations, conspiracies, and tales of dirty deeds. The poll is just to get the conversation rolling.
Oct 5, 2022·edited Oct 5, 2022Liked by Guttermouth
What is not being said is most telling: no one is blaming the other and no one is taking responsibility--and no one seems to care. I had the (unpopular) theory that it might not be blown up at all, just made to look that way like the moon landing and 9/11, but assuming it is, my gut tells me it was a concerted globalist effort by some or all of the following: Russia, US, Germany, Poland. Now Opec and Russia are continuing to decrease output of oil. It just seems that it is coming from all sides. The world needs energy/oil, there's plenty of it and yet, suddenly, and in concert, the people in control--everywhere--are deciding not to provide it--not even to manufacture it. And they are also "acting" as enemies to one another. Does that not seem suspicious? The result will be world starvation. Ring a bell?
Oh Putin definitely blew up his own $11B pipeline, sending millions of dollars of his gas into the Baltic to poison the fish. He couldn't find the switch to turn it off without his glasses!
Here's a thought: obviously blowing the pipes have been wargamed by every military with a reason to blow them, as soon as construction started. That's what they do, try out situations in advance just in case.
Now let's say that when the russian invasion started some plan that was marked "In case Putin actually does it" was activated and part of that plan was blowing the gas pipes, but that bit was put on hold as to not hurt Germany/EU.
Time flies, the german people become less and less enamoured at the prospect of helping Ukriane lose slower by freezing and having to take out a second mortgage to buy gas - meaning they might vote into office a german governement which isn't very US-friendly compared to the last umpteen years.
So one group in some part of US governemental machinery activates the plan - it's not as if the commander of the ship or unit is going to try and call Biden to check, is it?
And all of a sudden the actual cabinet around the president goes "Ohhh Fudgesickles!" and scrambles for what to do, because the main party line was not to blow the lines at all.
Creating a fait accompli to force the guys and girls on the other side of the party divide into your camp.
Oct 5, 2022·edited Oct 5, 2022Liked by Guttermouth
It must be Putin. His grasp even reaches to US inflation. I heard it on the news, so it must be true.
In all seriousness, I think it was the US--except given the recent track record I'm skeptical they can pull anything off. Hopefully there has been SOME housecleaning somewhere that matters.
Fun expeditions like this, there's the physical actors and the ones who provide all the backup support. ClintonWorld can get anything done, can't they?
I've got a theory - perhaps a certain kind of theory - that I haven't found mention of elsewhere.
The zealots of the Climate Church have now got their hands on the U.S. federal government, and all its trappings and extensive toybox. "All these filthy, respirating people will need to be made to get rid of their fossil fuels, and if that means less of them live in to the future, so much the better..." they say. And, since "the people" aren't going to be getting themselves off of the gas, we'll have to force them to do so, think the zealots. (see why We the People are such a threat?) Ergo, boom goes the pipeline; and well, if a reduction-of-supply/spike-in-cost isn't enough to get us all off the modern economic juice, what then?
Well, how 'bout we make said reduction in supply happen in such fashion as to increase our odds of global nuclear war? 'Cause a good nuclear apocalypse and its resultant large-scale population reduction might be just the ticket, and boy howdy would a nuclear winter of some duration do wonders for that pesky warming trend. (see also from the same crowd, "hey, we should help those instable, intolerant, anti-semitic nut jobs that run Iran get a nuke")
I'm not saying I REALLY think this is what's going on; but on the other hand, if the flash comes, the last thought before I de-res into steam and ash won't be one of surprise.
It had to be Greenland. They're ahead of the curve in the whole nuclear fusion thing, using frozen water as fuel. And who stands more to profit from an enormously available resource to cash in on if petro-fuels are scarce...
China, perhaps. They would certainly want to encourage a nuclear dust up between US and the Ruskies. While they back Russia on a lot of issues they have no particular love for Russia. It has too much in common with the West. What better way to keep the West destabilized and fighting than you secretly get in on the action to then sit back and watch what happens. The weaker these countries are, the more powerful China becomes.
Well, things are bubbling along here now. Our resigning prime minister has ordered the navy to effect a 50km exclusionary zone around the leaks, and has handed the investigation over to a prosecutor and the secret police. This is despite the factor that the blast sites are not inside swedish territorial waters, just inside the economic zone.
Furthermore, the resigning governement is stating that the investigation is solely a matter fo Sweden to conduct, without any foreign participiation, especially not russian such. This despite the pipes being majority-owned by Gazprom.
Even worse, Ann Linde, resigning minister for the Green Party, has stated that she is investigating how Sweden can go about blocking and making any repairs impossible .
Now, Sweden's own chief of staff has openly stated (years ago, since then the military has been further downsized) that without NATO/EU-troops coming to aid us and engaging in open war with a potential russian invasion and occupation of Gotland, Sweden's military resources might last as long as two weeks, and then only holding on to Stockholm and surrounding areas.
Which leads me to suspect that our resigning "watermelon"-governement has promises of supoort, including military, from someone big and dangerous enough to oppose Russia.
Anyone who knows their Machiavelli understands the folly of this.
Edit: this just popped up as I wrote this. The prosecutor in charge of the investigation has confirmed that detonations have taken place and that "certain findings" makes sabotage a virtual certainty. Matrials and images have been recovered for analysis.
Link to swedish state media web page article covering this:
What is not being said is most telling: no one is blaming the other and no one is taking responsibility--and no one seems to care. I had the (unpopular) theory that it might not be blown up at all, just made to look that way like the moon landing and 9/11, but assuming it is, my gut tells me it was a concerted globalist effort by some or all of the following: Russia, US, Germany, Poland. Now Opec and Russia are continuing to decrease output of oil. It just seems that it is coming from all sides. The world needs energy/oil, there's plenty of it and yet, suddenly, and in concert, the people in control--everywhere--are deciding not to provide it--not even to manufacture it. And they are also "acting" as enemies to one another. Does that not seem suspicious? The result will be world starvation. Ring a bell?
Just watch Blinken's press conference last Friday. He all but says the US did it. Only three days before he said he was baffled as to who would do it.
BTW:
My guess on who you most resemble:
Jennifer Lawrence of The Hunger Games. No doubt your a badass bitch!
Oh Putin definitely blew up his own $11B pipeline, sending millions of dollars of his gas into the Baltic to poison the fish. He couldn't find the switch to turn it off without his glasses!
if i were one of the pilots flying over that gas leak i would have fired off a few flares and lit that sucker up!
Here's a thought: obviously blowing the pipes have been wargamed by every military with a reason to blow them, as soon as construction started. That's what they do, try out situations in advance just in case.
Now let's say that when the russian invasion started some plan that was marked "In case Putin actually does it" was activated and part of that plan was blowing the gas pipes, but that bit was put on hold as to not hurt Germany/EU.
Time flies, the german people become less and less enamoured at the prospect of helping Ukriane lose slower by freezing and having to take out a second mortgage to buy gas - meaning they might vote into office a german governement which isn't very US-friendly compared to the last umpteen years.
So one group in some part of US governemental machinery activates the plan - it's not as if the commander of the ship or unit is going to try and call Biden to check, is it?
And all of a sudden the actual cabinet around the president goes "Ohhh Fudgesickles!" and scrambles for what to do, because the main party line was not to blow the lines at all.
Creating a fait accompli to force the guys and girls on the other side of the party divide into your camp.
Just venting here really.
It must be Putin. His grasp even reaches to US inflation. I heard it on the news, so it must be true.
In all seriousness, I think it was the US--except given the recent track record I'm skeptical they can pull anything off. Hopefully there has been SOME housecleaning somewhere that matters.
Fun expeditions like this, there's the physical actors and the ones who provide all the backup support. ClintonWorld can get anything done, can't they?
Coordinated effort with multiple NATO entities participating (or looking the other way).
It was the Dutch!
I've got a theory - perhaps a certain kind of theory - that I haven't found mention of elsewhere.
The zealots of the Climate Church have now got their hands on the U.S. federal government, and all its trappings and extensive toybox. "All these filthy, respirating people will need to be made to get rid of their fossil fuels, and if that means less of them live in to the future, so much the better..." they say. And, since "the people" aren't going to be getting themselves off of the gas, we'll have to force them to do so, think the zealots. (see why We the People are such a threat?) Ergo, boom goes the pipeline; and well, if a reduction-of-supply/spike-in-cost isn't enough to get us all off the modern economic juice, what then?
Well, how 'bout we make said reduction in supply happen in such fashion as to increase our odds of global nuclear war? 'Cause a good nuclear apocalypse and its resultant large-scale population reduction might be just the ticket, and boy howdy would a nuclear winter of some duration do wonders for that pesky warming trend. (see also from the same crowd, "hey, we should help those instable, intolerant, anti-semitic nut jobs that run Iran get a nuke")
I'm not saying I REALLY think this is what's going on; but on the other hand, if the flash comes, the last thought before I de-res into steam and ash won't be one of surprise.
Is there any doubt?
US via Polish special forces. Putin will respond against Poland and presto! WW3.
It had to be Greenland. They're ahead of the curve in the whole nuclear fusion thing, using frozen water as fuel. And who stands more to profit from an enormously available resource to cash in on if petro-fuels are scarce...
China, perhaps. They would certainly want to encourage a nuclear dust up between US and the Ruskies. While they back Russia on a lot of issues they have no particular love for Russia. It has too much in common with the West. What better way to keep the West destabilized and fighting than you secretly get in on the action to then sit back and watch what happens. The weaker these countries are, the more powerful China becomes.
Well, things are bubbling along here now. Our resigning prime minister has ordered the navy to effect a 50km exclusionary zone around the leaks, and has handed the investigation over to a prosecutor and the secret police. This is despite the factor that the blast sites are not inside swedish territorial waters, just inside the economic zone.
Furthermore, the resigning governement is stating that the investigation is solely a matter fo Sweden to conduct, without any foreign participiation, especially not russian such. This despite the pipes being majority-owned by Gazprom.
Even worse, Ann Linde, resigning minister for the Green Party, has stated that she is investigating how Sweden can go about blocking and making any repairs impossible .
Now, Sweden's own chief of staff has openly stated (years ago, since then the military has been further downsized) that without NATO/EU-troops coming to aid us and engaging in open war with a potential russian invasion and occupation of Gotland, Sweden's military resources might last as long as two weeks, and then only holding on to Stockholm and surrounding areas.
Which leads me to suspect that our resigning "watermelon"-governement has promises of supoort, including military, from someone big and dangerous enough to oppose Russia.
Anyone who knows their Machiavelli understands the folly of this.
Edit: this just popped up as I wrote this. The prosecutor in charge of the investigation has confirmed that detonations have taken place and that "certain findings" makes sabotage a virtual certainty. Matrials and images have been recovered for analysis.
Link to swedish state media web page article covering this:
[https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/starkta-misstankar-om-sabotage-pa-nord-stream]
Highlight the article, right-click and choose "translate/översätt to/till english/engelska" for a perfectly legible english version.
https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/the-nord-stream-2-pipeline-sabotage
Have you seen the Monkeywerx video showing a US aircraft with guided torpedo capabilities, was flying over the exact area at the time of the "event".
He also mentioned that the flight was not listed, which just adds to the intrigue.
Watch from 04:50 to about 21:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPUwgaAScp8